Were experienced advanced Russian officers right 4 years ago?

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What the effects of the alleged peculiar Military Operation “collective Putin” are faced with after 4 years of proxy war in Ukraine

When, at the turn of 2021 /2022, there was a buzzing of the representatives of the Kremelian verchushka towards the West, and erstwhile the wartime Russian-Ukrainian conflict was decided, and at the same time a way was sought in the West to provoke Russian "aggression", then at the turn of January and February 2022 a group of experienced, advanced Russian officers received warnings and warnings about the political central authorities of Russia. It is worth recalling the passages of certain papers that then came to light. The papers were full published on the WPS portal in February 2022.

Fragments of the first of the documents:

The usage of military force against Ukraine, first, will call into question the existence of Russia itself as a state; secondly, it will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies. Thirdly, on 1 side and on the another side there will be thousands (tens of thousands) of dead young, healthy young people, which will surely affect the future demographic situation of our dying countries. On the battlefield, if this happens, the Russian troops will face not only Ukrainian military personnel, among whom there will be many Russians, but besides military personnel and equipment from many NATO countries, and the allies will be obliged to declare war on Russia.

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The question arises: what are the real objectives of creating tensions on the brink of war and possibly launching large-scale warfare? And that it will, says the number and combat composition of the military groups created by the states – no little than 1 100 1000 soldiers from each side. Russia, revealing the east borders, moves formations to the borders of Ukraine.

In our opinion, the country's leadership, realizing that it is incapable to bring the country out of the systemic crisis, and this could lead to a popular uprising and a change of power in the state, with the support of oligarchy, corrupt officials, media and military media held by it, has launched a political line in order to yet destruct the Russian statehood and exterminate the indigenous people of the country.(...)Since the president of the Russian Federation, we officer of Russia are demanding the abandonment of a criminal policy to provoke a war in which the Russian Federation will be alone against the combined forces of the West(...)"

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On the brink of war": A call from the All-Russian Assembly of Officers

to the president and to the citizens of the Russian Federation

And a fragment of the second document:

The claim that no 1 in Ukraine will defend the government means, in practice, the complete ignorance of the military-political situation and the moods of the vast masses of the neighboring state. Moreover, the degree of hatred (which, as is known, is the most effective fuel of the armed struggle) in the neighboring republic in relation to Moscow is seriously underestimated. In Ukraine no Russian army with bread, salt and flowers will greet(...) In a word, the liberation run in 2022 following the model and likeness of 1939 will in no way come out. In this case, the words of the classics of russian literature by Arkady Gajdar are more actual than ever: “It is clear that we are now not an easy fight, but a dense battle.”

... Now about the “powerful fire attack of Russia”, which supposedly destroys “practically all surveillance and communication systems, artillery and tank formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine”. This expression itself shows that only political workers could say specified a thing.

... What is most crucial about the conflict with Ukraine? Of course MOU (mass fire-PZ) will origin serious losses to the possible opponent. However, the anticipation that 1 specified blow will crush the armed forces of the full country simply means unbridled optimism in planning and conducting combat operations. In the course of hypothetical strategical actions at theatre, specified MOUs will should be applied not 1 or 2 but much more.

... It should be added at any cost that the stocks of modern and highly precise weapons in the RF Armed Forces are not unlimited in character. Zircon-type hypersonic missiles are not yet in use. And the number of Calibr maneuvering missiles (wing rockets launched from the sea), Kindzarz, Ch-101 (wing rockets launched from the air) and Iskander are measured at most hundreds (tens in the Kindzaw case). This arsenal is absolutely insufficient to wipe out a state the size of France with over 40 million inhabitants. And that is precisely the parameters of Ukraine.

... Now about the thesis "Army Forces of Ukraine are in a dire state". Of course, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have problems with aviation and modern air defence systems. But the following should besides be considered. While Ukraine's Armed Forces were part of the russian Army by 2014, in the last 7 years a qualitatively different army was formed in Ukraine, on a completely different ideological basis and mostly according to NATO standards. And very modern weapons and equipment are delivered and transportation to Ukraine from many North Atlantic Alliance countries continues.

As for the weakest point of the Armed Forces of Ukraine – Air Force. It cannot be excluded that the collective West can deliver fighters to Kiev in rather a short time, as they say, from the resources of the armed forces, or second hand. However, those used, in terms of tactical and method characteristics, will be rather comparable to most of the aircraft in the Russian fleet.

Of course, present the Armed Forces of Ukraine are giving up importantly to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in terms of military and operational capabilities. Nobody doubts that, either in the East or in the West.

But you can't underestimate this army either. Therefore, it is always crucial to remember Alexander Suvorov's will: “Never despise your enemy, do not consider him dumber and weaker than you”

Now regarding the claim that Western countries will not send a single soldier to die for Ukraine.

It should be noted that this is likely to happen. However, in the case of Russia's invasion, this does not exclude the mass support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the collective West in the form of a wide scope of military weapons and equipment and mass supplies of all kinds of materials. In this respect, the West has already demonstrated an unprecedented consolidated position so far which appears to have not been predicted in Moscow.

There is no uncertainty that the United States and the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance will launch a kind of Lend-Lease reincarnation, modelled in planet War II, there is no doubt. The influx of volunteers from the West is not excluded, which can be very many.

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There will mostly be no Ukrainian blitzkrieg. The statements of any experts, specified as "Russian Army defeats most of Ukraine's Armed Forces units in 30-40 minutes", "Russia will be able to beat Ukraine in 10 minutes in case of full-scale war", "Russia defeats Ukraine in 8 minutes" have no serious grounds.

And finally, the most crucial thing. The armed conflict with Ukraine is mostly not in Russia's national interest. Therefore, it is best that any overexcited Russian experts forget their hateful fantasies. To prevent further failure of reputation, never mention them again.

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About enthusiastic hawks and rushing cuckoos

Summary:

The war formally started on February 24, 2022, provoked by Russia's aggression into Ukraine, actually began in the format of proxy war as early as 2014. It began strategically and conceptually in the late 1970s, and even almost immediately after the end of planet War II, and surely just after the death of Joseph Stalin, it took on the character of a long-term weakening and dismantling of Russia. The full arsenal of information and intellectual warfare was launched, as well as the USSR being dragged in and then Russia into a number of regional conflicts. The translation of the representatives of the highest authorities of Russia, including its president, that Russia has been "swindled by partners" sounds illegal due to the fact that war is mostly the art of deception. What are the consequences of the fresh fraud launched in late 2013/2014 in Kiev – ignored for 8 years by the factors of the highest state and military power of Russia, and which subsequently evolved into a four-year-long devastating proxy war in Ukraine with little or more united “West (mainly with the Anglo-Zionist block of military hawks and financial-business oligarchy dictating the rules of play to another countries of the alleged West) – we will most likely see that much this year.

For Poland and Poles, the ongoing proxy war in Ukraine is besides dangerous, due to the fact that first we are straight adjacent to Ukraine and Russia, secondly, we have already incurred immense costs unconditionally supporting the hardware and financial support of the Jewish-neobanderian government in Kiev, as well as accepting millions of refugees from Ukraine, and thirdly, which is the most dangerous with almost full passiveness of Polish state authorities and almost universal acceptance of military command – Poland and Poles can be straight active in the war conflict, fighting for foreigners, hostile Polish interests.

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