Is the escalation of war in Ukraine inevitable? Can Europe and the planet face atomic destruction? How did the conflict in Ukraine affect our standard of surviving and the state of our economies? This was discussed by the participants of the global anti-war debate co-organised by “Think Poland”.
Apart from national participants, guests from the United States, large Britain and Romania participated in the discussion. The debate recording will shortly be released on YouTube channels Think Polish tv and Against Censur.
Escalation limits
The war in Ukraine is an expanding threat, especially for countries bordering the conflict. The mainstream media, however, like to keep quiet about it. Romanian Senator, president of the S.O.S. România Party, Diana Iovanovici Șoșoacă She spoke about her initiative on the referendum on Romania's engagement in the conflict in Ukraine. Although she managed to collect quite a few signatures, the media kept quiet about everything. According to the associate Grzegorz Braun, leader of the Confederation of the Polish Crown, the possible of escalation is played in Poland by the ruling camp, wondering about the possibilities of transferring parliamentary elections. Meanwhile, in his opinion, "Polish public opinion is increasingly tired of Ukrainian dominance in abroad and interior matters, in which Polish interests should be the most important".
In the UK, no parliamentarians are opposed to the expanding escalation of the conflict in Ukraine. "The only thing we can do is rise the issue of threats and then possibly the public will have an appropriate influence on the authorities" – said Christopher Williamson, a longtime MP of the home of Commons for the British Labour Party, as well as a minister in the opposition cabinet of the shadow of the Labourers. He agreed with Grzegorz Braun that alleged Western societies proved to be hostages of the political class of their countries entering the war. "President Putin drew red lines 15 years ago, at a Munich conference, but he was all those years and is inactive ignored" – he answered the question of the sources of escalation, erstwhile associate of the home of Commons, leader of the anti-war movement and president of the British Workers' Party, George Galloway.
"With all subsequent terrorist attack in Russia, force on retaliation is increasing" – assessed Larry C. Johnson, safety expert and erstwhile U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer. According to him, escalation is peculiarly dangerous for Poland: “If Polish-Russian clashes begin, the United States will not send a single branch”. "I think the alleged red lines have already been crossed in most cases. I think the Russians have accepted the position that they must prepare for the worst” – said on the boundaries of the escalation colonel Douglas Macgregor, erstwhile U.S. Army commander during operations in Iraq and advisor to the Department of Defence during the presidency Donald Trump.
Nuclear position and Flag Design
“Russian authorities are very average in this war, much more than American and British” – noted Galloway. He considered the usage of atomic weapons likely if the conflict continued and 1 of his parties began to gain a clear advantage.
As Mr Braun believes, a deadly threat exists, and it is mostly the product of the Anglo-Saxons, who bred Ukrainian nationalism, referring to genocide traditions. Johnson noted that the drive to escalate could be due to a deficiency of appropriate insight into the situation in Washington: “There is simply a tendency to think that our decision-makers have any secret plan, that they are truly cunning and do not show all their cards, that they are not as stupid as they seem. I have sensational news: they are just so stupid”.
This could all end tragically for Romania, too. She noted that existential threats to her country from the post-World War I were returning. "Although people from all sides see sense in avoiding atomic confrontation, I truly believe it, there are many things that can happen that possibly can origin it. It should be avoided at any cost. I think the current administration is very careless and unfortunately, I think you are the victims of this recklessness" – commented on the atomic threat to Central Europe by Colonel Macgregor.
Economic gap
“Sanctions are a disaster for millions of people” said Williamson, pointing out that the cost of surviving in the UK and another European countries has increased dramatically as a result. "The effects of the transfer of $140 billion to Ukraine are seen on the streets of Philadelphia, in these real horror canons – drug abuse, homelessness, crime, racial conflicts – besides affect the United States" – added Galloway.
"The European Union and its associate States are starting to sink deeper and slower. It affects us here in the United States. any people think, ‘Well, we sale liquefied gas at advanced prices to people in Europe’. This may lead to short-term growth, but this is not a long-term solution" – pointed out Colonel Macgregor, pointing to the disastrous effects of sanctions on the full West.
"We are not only hostages but besides slaves; we must work beyond dimensions, we and our families, for abroad interests" said Grzegorz Braun about Poland's commitment to support Kiev. Senator Șoșoacă besides spoke about the demolition of the Romanian economy.
International Against War
Diana Iovanovici Șoșoacă called on the debate participants to take joint action to make an global anti-war initiative. This thought was picked up by Christopher Williamson, pointing to the request to contact and combine efforts of opponents of escalation from different countries, including those most threatened by it.
Konrad Hand concluded that, regardless of political divisions and differences in another issues, specified a common network for coordination and exchange of information is possible. The participants announced further debates and further cooperation.
Andrzej Dołęga
