Fragment of Rod Dreher's relation with Viktor Orban for The American Conservative
That evening for the 3rd time I was at a gathering in a chamber group with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. I told visiting journalists and publishers that this guy would surprise them, due to the fact that they wouldn't believe how different it is from the Western media. He's smart, funny, superb and completely confident. He's not being watched by press advisors, and he doesn't head his words so much that he's just saying mush. It's truly interesting. As I told the people I spoke to earlier at the conference, who were invited to a later gathering with the Prime Minister: "You will not believe that the planet leader is truly like this". ...
The Prime Minister spent 2 hours with about 15 of us. Among the Americans were Sohrab Ahmadi, Gladden Pappin, editor of the European Conservative Mario Fantini and editor of Spectator US Zack Christenson. Orbán answered all question we asked, and would most likely talk about it longer if we didn't gotta go to a conference dinner. I've never seen a politician so profoundly in love with what he does. Orban was so honest, I asked the counselor respective times if it was truly in the protocol. Only 2 or 3 times he went outside the protocol, and it was only to make a brief judgement of any public figures.
The main questions afraid the Russian-Ukrainian War. Orban is simply a goat among NATO sheep. Practically from the very beginning, he pressed heavy for ceasefire and a peaceful solution – not due to his peculiar love for the Russians, but due to his concern for the destiny of Hungary and Europe. ...
Orbán said that the West must realize that Putin cannot afford to lose and will not lose due to the fact that next year he has re-election and can't run as a president who lost the war. Moreover, he said Russia cannot let NATO to establish a presence in Ukraine. The time has long passed erstwhile Russia could conquer Ukraine or install a friendly regime. If Russia had won fast, it might have been possible, but it's hopeless now. Therefore, said Orban, Russia's goal is to make Ukraine a wreck that cannot be ruled so that the West cannot consider it a prey. They've already done that. “Now there is Afghanistan,” he said. "No Man's Land".
The West does not realize that time works in favour of Russia in Ukraine. Russia is simply a immense country and can mobilise a immense army. Ukraine is moving out of soldiers. erstwhile it happens, what then?
“We have great, large problems,” he said about the West. If Russia's upcoming spring offensive is successful, will NATO states face the question of whether to send troops to fight for Ukraine? According to Orban, this is not considered by the American people, but it is apparent to the increasing number of Europeans whose countries can be destroyed if the war spreads.
Really? NATO troops are fighting the Russians in Ukraine? Yeah, said Orbán. present it sounds crazy, "but if you look at the trend that we have reached this point today, it cannot be excluded." The West “is at war with Russia. This is the reality," he said. "Every day we go further."
It was clear from the context of his discussion that Viktor Orban did not want the West to be at war with Russia. He pushes for peace and says from the beginning that no 1 wins this war. However, he says that besides many Westerners are deluded about what is truly happening – and what can happen. The West may think that it is not at war with Russia, but sending more and more weapons and approaching actual military intervention, Western leaders are playing an highly dangerous game with each other, with Russia and the Western public.
The writer asked the Prime Minister if he thought the war could take a atomic form. “I can’t regulation out that they will usage it,” he said about the atomic bomb. He explained that he was talking about tactical atomic bombs on the battlefield, not mushrooms on Warsaw and Berlin – "but I can't regulation that out either". If Ukraine somehow, utilizing western weapons,
Someone pointed out that the Russians have so far had miserable results on the battlefield. Yes, Orban said, it's true. But if you look at the past of Russia, that's the way it is with the Russians in the war. They start out poorly, but after a while they find it hard to stop. He's counting on it this time. He besides mentioned at the beginning of the session that pushing Russia into an alliance with Iran was highly dangerous for Israel and expressed hope that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose adult boy was sitting at the table, could become a peacemaker between Russia and Ukraine. Although Ukraine has had any incredible successes against Russia, Orban said that in the long run it does not see that we in the West are on the winning side, especially given Russia's production capacity.
Orban spoke of being the only dissident among the 27 leaders of the European Union on Ukraine's war policy. He said it was very frustrating due to the fact that his executive colleagues would not debate the intent of this war.
Rod Dreher
Rod Dreher is simply a elder editor at The American Conservative. The full text of the relation is available at the americanconservative.com
