Summary of the "useful idiot" debate

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This is the second time I've been kicked off the NEon24 portal. The first time I was dragged out for writing specified a note: "Neon24 - Russian V column" (]]>https://www.salon24.pl/u/gps65/1209338,neon24-ruska-v-column]]>). After a fewer years they announced amnesty and accepted me again. This time I got fired for writing a note: Summary of the "useful idiot" debate. This firing clearly confirms that I was right to compose about their blogger that it is "The useful idiot Kremlin". But it besides shows that specified Putin propagandaists are more there and in general the full administration is working to advance Kremlin narrative.

I'm sending the full memo they removed from me and my account is blocked:

GPS article (Swider's Tomb) about Stanislav

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The author describes Paweł Zieminski ("stanislav"), leader of the Polish Patriotic Party, calling him "the useful idiot of the Kremlin". He argues that his anti-Western, anti-Natarian thesis, which promotes "good neighbourhood with Moscow", conventional Slavic values, coincides with the communicative of Russian propaganda, although there is no evidence of agenturality. It indicates an perfect relation between Earth and GRUNWALD, PAX and Moczar from the Polish People's Republic. In the comments under the text, there is simply a quarrel: GPS in fact translates its position and the political concept of "a useful idiot". Many wrongly accuse him of attacking ad personam, but lacks a factual discussion, and there is simply quite a few aggravation and invection towards GPS.

Stanislav's Response

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Stanislav reposts his own text, in which he mocks GPS allegations, reversing the function of a “useful idiot” and suggesting that GPS itself duplicates propaganda of hostile environments (e.g. judaic capitalism/liberalism). The text is maintained in a grumpy repost style, does not contain a substantive analysis of the facts given by GPS, alternatively focuses on mocking its individual (e.g. terms specified as "fools, scums"). Here is simply a collision of worldviews without an effort to explain a substance of fact, or alternatively an escalation of the individual and ideological clash.

Insertion of a organization Fellow (Rzeczpospolita/WPS)

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Signed "Rzeczpospolita" (Dariusz Kosiur) rapidly takes the stanislav side, defining the text of the GPS as absurd, and its author as a individual of small intellectually, unsuccessful in publishing and politics. Criticism is highly personal, not based on breaking the GPS argument, but on general stigmatisation and rhetorical lynching. As before, there is small polemic – more epithets and invectors.

Counter-trartician (administrator/ blogger of the portal)

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GPS65 is simply a useful idiot, Braun, who is besides an administrator, who reverses the description from the GPS text. He tries to do an OSINT analysis of GPS views, indicating that the author himself presents radical, emotional, and anti-Russian rhetoric, which he believes is unprofessional and subjective, not reliably OSINT. The full is maintained in a mockery-publicist kind and does not avoid irony or individual excursions.

Position of the Portal Administration

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The NEon24 administration publishes an article in which it emphasizes that the text of the GPS is not a appropriate analysis of OSINT, as if it is not based on nonsubjective analysis of sources, but on subjective assessments. It besides points to an inappropriate form of personnel trips, explains the principles of sound debate, and calls for GPS only to refrain from specified attacks. The self-righteousness of others does not condemn. At the same time, the GPS text is not removed by treating it as a "example as if not to conduct debates". The talks fall to the level of charges of selective moderation and friendly treatment of any users by admin.

Evaluation of the participants of the debate

  • GPS (Wild Thunder): He tries to supply a political analysis and tries to justify the thesis, uses a professional political word “beneficial idiot”, whose short definition he gives. He does not usage profanity and tries to have a discussion within a widely understood publicist culture. The allegations of supporting Kremlin's communicative by Stanislav are based on the criterion of the conformity of views and facts taken from his publicist. No 1 denies these facts.
  • Stanislav (Paweł Zieminski) and its environment (WPS, Rzeczpospolita): They mainly usage confrontational and mocking rhetoric, correspond to a individual attack without undertaking a deep, substantive polemic with GPS arguments. The defence is based on mocking the opponent, insulting him, and negating the meaning of his analysis, not on the physical overthrow of the opponents, or denying the facts.
  • jon (administrator/blogger): As a blogger and administrator, he reverses GPS charges on himself, under the cover of the "professional OSINT" accuses GPS of being inactive and mixing opinions with facts, but he himself uses an ironic, individual and does not avoid individual advocacy, causing the level of discussion on the portal to decline rapidly.
  • Portal administration: Publicly exhorts the culture of speech, but it is not consistent – the responses are selective, and the language of the trial (e.g. in pointing out errors, threatening to block) shows that the administration itself is active in the dispute and does not keep neutrality. alternatively of real mediation, you can talk about organization standing on 1 side of the conflict which drives the aggression and rudeness of GPS-attacking bloggers

Overall assessment:

The debate rapidly turned into a war to epithets, with a large share of ad personam arguments. Matterual polemics gave way to fighting places for rhetorical stigmata and censoring consequences. GPS attackers personalize the dispute, attribute wrongly bad intentions to it and attack its reputation. The administration cannot play the function of a just mediator, but stands by the attackers.

Conclusions:

  • The level of this clash is an example of how not to hold public debates.
  • The function of argument was suppressed by personalization and emotion.
  • The portal demonstrates the classical mechanisms of polarization of online environments, and the administration is incapable to prevent it, participates in the dispute and ignites it.

This is simply a typical example of a confrontational, non-constructive debate on the Polish blog scene – alternatively of a factual exchange of arguments, we see an endless duel of insulting, vulgarism, patches, labels and individual tours.

Grzegorz GPS Swiderski
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PS1. That's how the administration explained firing me:

2025-10-10 17:55:38, NEon24 administration, permanent blockade: Continuation of erstwhile personnel entries

Sir,

Your latest text, despite the adopted form of "the analysis of the debate", is in fact a continuation of earlier entries of a individual and evaluation nature to another users and the administration of the portal. specified publications are not utilized for substantive discussion, but they perpetuate the conflict and undermine assurance in the principles of publication on the portal.

We remind you that you have previously been explicitly called upon to halt publishing comments and texts about specified a tone. This publication shall be treated as another effort to provoke and breach the applicable warning.

Therefore, according to erstwhile announcements, your account is blocked.

PS2: There's a rumor coming to me that Gen and Stanislav are partners. That's impossible, due to the fact that if they did, they wouldn't have supported Russia, due to the fact that if Putin had come in, he'd have shot them first.

PS3. I was already fired on this portal, I had amnesty too, and I will yet be expelled for the same reasons. All Polish blog portals are totally gone. It makes sense to debate only on X.

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