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Auschwitz prisoner and victim of German monster "Dr" Mengele: "First learn past and then open your mouths"
26.01.2025 19:31
- I'm sorry. What I remember about “Dr” Mengele is that he beat me. I know from Polish doctors in Mengel's block that erstwhile he had a tide of “goodness” and brought children, among another things – an apple – this I remember, I remember the hand that gives me an apple. And I took this apple, I spit on this apple – tfu, Kraut! – and on it. I got an amazing beating - he tells me in an interview with Cezary Krysztopa was a prisoner of the German Auschwitz camp and the victim of the inhuman medical experiments of the German monster "Dr" Mengele.

Barbara Warrowska-Gautier / Screen YT Tysol.pl
- I'm sorry. I remember erstwhile they put us in the cars. My father threw me in. I couldn't get in due to the fact that I was besides young. This car, something awful, stinking, crowded. I've got quite a few wheels in my ears so far. This journey was very difficult. We didn't know where we were going. It was only my father who realized close Sosnowiec (...) he knew German and overheard – I do not want to make panic, but we are going to Auschwitz – he said. Many prisoners in the transport did not know what it meant, but my father, who was in the AK interview, said – Pray we get out of this.
How does a 3.5-year-old kid feel erstwhile they're separated from their parents? It was awful. We were led like sheep. I was so scared, I didn't react. The kids didn't know what was going on. The younger ones cried, so did I. Then, on a ramp called "judenrampe", although transports from the Warsaw Uprising came here, they separated us, men separately, women separately and children separately. I was in a crowd of kids crying, snotting. We didn't know what was going on. It wasn't until this morning that I started to wonder where my mom was, where my home is, where my bed is, where my nanny is, where my dog is, where my toys are? Where's my breakfast?
- says Barbara Warrowska-Gautierwho went to camp as a 3.5-year-old child. She points out that any are her own memories, and any are reconstructions based on mother's stories and another prisoners' accounts.
"Dead children lay in front of the block"
- I'm sorry. From a comfortable life, I was in poverty. With bugs, lice. No water to wash, no soap. I didn't have my bathtub where I could splash. I missed all that, I missed the bathroom. Needs had to be done in front of others. I remember how many times I didn't make it to these boards. I got a terrible beating for peeing my pants... I started smelling. I felt it.
It improved erstwhile mom started slipping, like another mothers, once, twice a day, sometimes all 2 days, to her children. It was very risky... Mom brought any clothes from somewhere, any warm dress, 'cause it started to get cold, any shirt so I could change. any wet towel she wiped me with. She brought any food, any bread, any cold meat that she managed to "screw." another mothers did the same thing. I talked to another girls, they said it was a wonderful minute for them... It was impossible for me – take me with you, take me from this place, I do not want to be here – I asked – It is impossible, we must be patient.
The children saw terrible scenes. They were pushed to appeal. The kids were dying. The ones that died were put in front of the block where they lay. After that, rats, mice flew. Those kids saw it. I didn't see that. God spared me. Others have. And that's what they have left. There were girls older than us who were 10, 12 years old. They were given the function of caring for younger children, sometimes 2 years old. any of them came out of backgrounds where force was in families. These children were raised in cruelty, and during the business it doubled. And sometimes they emphasized their power by hand.
- says Barbara.
Mengele
What I remember about “Dr” Mengele is that he beat me. I know from Polish doctors in Mengel's block that erstwhile he had a tide of “goodness” and brought children, among another things – an apple – this I remember, I remember the hand that gives me an apple. And I took this apple, I spit on this apple – tfu, Kraut! – and on it. I got an amazing beat, but he didn't break my bones besides much due to the fact that I walk, but he didn't socialize so much anymore... They've been injecting us with all kinds of things, bacteria, viruses. I got tuberculosis bacteria. I've been in serious wellness problem so far. They were experimenting in front of the kids. They were letting us in any drops.
- tells a terrible communicative by erstwhile Auschwitz prisoner.
"Norymber process should be repeated"
The Nuremberg process should be repeated. Among the lawyers in the UN, in the Human Rights Committee, we have always said that this process should have been repeated. Not due to the fact that he was forged, but due to the fact that he was imperfect. The lawyer General was an American, an older man who had prostate illness and was constantly "flying on his pee", so the gathering was interrupted. Or he didn't hear.
Furthermore, prosecutors from any countries were not allowed to speak. Poland was not allowed to vote in many cases. There was prosecutor Sawicki who wanted to rise the substance [Catinia - P, Barbara Warzrowska-Gautier talks about Volynska Rzeza, but this is simply a mistake - ed.].
He was Ksavery Prószyński. There was no way they could've broken through. To the point that they were not even given accommodations with another lawyers, judges and lawyers. They had to find a area for themselves, Poles always manage, but they could not speak. Many criminals changed their testimony. There is simply quite a few confusion with Hoess' testimony, which said otherwise in Nuremberg and something else during the trial in Poland. For example, erstwhile he was asked how many people were murdered in Auschwitz, he threw 5-6 million. And that was fundamentally consistent with what the Russians said. But during the trial in Poland, these numbers were decreasing, it was 3 million, 2 million...
- says Barbara Warrowska-Gautier, who worked as a lawyer for the United Nations.
"Deliverment"
- I'm sorry. During the “liberation” the camp was not empty, Germans escaped from it, but erstwhile prisoners... The russian Ukrainian division was ordered to fly to Berlin. They couldn't stop. They left a fewer loaf of bread, saw what was going on and flew. Only 2 or 3 days after that came the russian Army with the Red Cross. The prisoners threw themselves at the old cans that were in “Canada” (the barracks in which the looted property of prisoners was collected – ed.) (...)
- says Barbara Warrowska-Gautier, who worked as a lawyer for the United Nations.
"Deliverment"
- I'm sorry. During the “liberation” the camp was not empty, Germans escaped from it, but erstwhile prisoners... The russian Ukrainian division was ordered to fly to Berlin. They couldn't stop. They left a fewer loaf of bread, saw what was going on and flew. Only 2 or 3 days after that came the russian Army with the Red Cross. The prisoners threw themselves at the old cans that were in “Canada” (the barracks in which the looted property of prisoners was collected – ed.) (...)
– The stories of the rapes of the jailbirds are true? - Yeah.
- confirms Barbara-Warnarowska
First visit to Auschwitz after the war
At that time (at the time of Barbara Warzarowska-Gautier's first visit to Auschwitz after the war, in the 1960s – ed.) the manager of the museum was the prisoner of the First Transport, Mr.Smolen, who guided us.
- confirms Barbara-Warnarowska
First visit to Auschwitz after the war
At that time (at the time of Barbara Warzarowska-Gautier's first visit to Auschwitz after the war, in the 1960s – ed.) the manager of the museum was the prisoner of the First Transport, Mr.Smolen, who guided us.
We went through the gate “Arbeit mach frei”. It was inactive in the process of organizing. We found specified a large mountain of shoes. There were these baby red sandals. She was certain these were my sandals. Of course they weren't, but this combination – they took us in the summertime – children's sandals... The horror movies have revived. I flew outside the camp entrance, sat on a bench and waited for them to leave. And they didn't know I was in Auschwitz due to the fact that I seldom talked about it. Among them was Polish atomic physicist Prof. Rotblat
Why did you run away?
– I was here, Mr. prof. in this camp as a kid – he hugged me with his hand and says
– My wife died in Belzec.
When she started working in fresh York City (in the United Nations in the 1960s – ed.) rather accidentally, in specified a hall is the statue of Arthur Rubinstein, we pass with colleagues, and I ask them
When she started working in fresh York City (in the United Nations in the 1960s – ed.) rather accidentally, in specified a hall is the statue of Arthur Rubinstein, we pass with colleagues, and I ask them
– Do you know what that is? This is simply a Pole with judaic roots, Artur Rubinstein, who was 1 of the first in the UN to fight for Poland
And they didn't know.
– Then what are you doing here? – they did not know the past of the UN
– It was a Holocaust victim – they said
Yeah, but it was a Pole. He always thought he was a Pole first. I realize that due to the fact that I was in Auschwitz
– And you are the victim of the Holocaust.
– No, I'm Polish, Catholic.
– Are they Poles, Catholics, were they in Auschwitz? It was just for the Holocaust victims.
- No! No! This camp was built for Poles
– No, no, what are you talking about! You're sowing propaganda!
– Go there, read in the archives and learn past before you open your mouth!
– Then it happened very frequently to me that ‘if she was in Auschwitz I was a victim of the Holocaust’, no.
But it's not those people's fault, it's the education that individual decided to take care of. It happened after 1945.
- says Barbara Warrowska-Gautier.
Message of the erstwhile Auschwitz prisoner
- I'm sorry. German teachers who come with groups of youth to Auschwitz come with a program that is imposed by the German side. Even if Polish guides want to improve, they have no chance to do so. Therefore, I think it would be good for groups to come to the Auschwitz Museum, that, without any exceptions, the guide should be Polish. The guides in Poland are well trained. If they passed on what they were expected to say, there'd be a lot little misunderstandings.
... A communicative I can't realize so far. Until any point from the beginning of the Auschwitz Museum in 1947, there were celebrations of the First Transport (Poles, 14 June – ed.) to Auschwitz. Thousands of prisoners, loudly and so on. It took a long time. The First Transport prisoners were gone, but they were next. Celebrations very solemn and without politics. Then it was entrusted to specified a committee that did not do so, then it was done by an association of Christian families, which besides brought together prisoners of the First Transport who, as long as they were alive, everything was fine. And then they started to leave, the power in this association began to change, and they started to argue. I don't know precisely what the reason was, but it was decided by the Ministry of Culture, the Museum's superior, that the celebrations would go to the hands of the Museum. I think it happened in late 2015. The first specified celebrations began in the year, if I am correct 2016. But "circumcision" is besides much to say due to the fact that there was nothing. Then, with a group of another prisoners, we decided something had to be done. I knew the First Transport prisoners, they were afraid that erstwhile they left everyone would forget them... We managed to do any things.
We should remember that past should be taken care of. Whatever it is, don't twist it. What the Polish people have been through, let us not be dominated. I am very dissatisfied with what is happening in the European Union. This will to impose on us the German model. Poles can regulation themselves. And I'd like it to be clear about war losses and damages.
... There's so small of us left, take an interest in the prisoners, have individual call them, come by, bring them a cookie, arrange a gathering to make them feel like someone's curious in them, want to perceive to them. due to the fact that they have a lot to say.
- calls Barbara Warrowska-Gautier
Written by Cezary Krishna
Source: tysol.pl
Date: 26.01.2025 19:31
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How many resources did Germany give to Poles for planet War II, camps and forced labor? Tremendous data from the foundation


Image by Fratria
Poland allocates PLN 60 million annually to maintaining museums in erstwhile German concentration camps and German extermination camps. In the years 1992-2006, Germany transferred a full of PLN 732 million to Polish victims of German concentration camps. The calculations on the X platform by writer Andrzej Kozicki are based on MKiDN data and the Polish-German Reconciliation Foundation.
When the Law and Justice gave power in 2023, it expected that - as declared by the leading politicians of the civilian Coalition - the current government would proceed to rise in relations with Germany the issue of the work of our western neighbour for the crimes of planet War II and compensation for Poland. It rapidly became clear, however, that this subject of Coalition 13 December would alternatively be abandoned. In January 2024 German media reported on the advancement of the “Polish-German House” initiative and the construction of a memorial in Berlin, commemorating Polish victims of planet War II.
Poland and Germany
Today we hear that problems are even with the monument itself. And to what degree do Germany meet their obligations to Poland, due to the evil that our peoples did between 1939 and 1945?
Little known fact: Poland spent more (and inactive spends) money on maintaining museums in erstwhile German concentration camps (60 million PLN per year) than Germany donated to the victims of concentration camps Polish citizenship (total of PLN 732 million)
“The Emperor Bolesław Chrobry wrote on platform X, Andrzej Kozicki, a journalist. Reintepretation and reconfiguration of sources’.
When asked about the sources of data, Kozicki pointed out that in the case of funds allocated by the Polish State for the maintenance of museums of erstwhile German camps, it is the Ministry of Culture and National Heritage, and as regards the funds donated by Berlin to Polish victims of German camps, the data came from the Polish-German Reconciliation Foundation.
Actions of the Polish-German Reconciliation Foundation
Let us add that in the second case we are talking about the funds transferred from 1992 to 2006. The Foundation, whose objectives include, among others, "a witness of assistance to victims of Nazi persecution", "gathering and making available documentation of Nazi persecution of Polish citizens" or "initiating efforts to reconcile and communicate between nations, especially between Poles and Germany" offers or offered humanitarian, medical, physical aid in fresh times, directed to Poles who survived German concentration camps, Warsaw Uprisings, and survivors of the Holocaust or forced labour during the war. It is not essential to add that there are less and less people each year among us, and that the groups to which the programmes have been targeted or are targeted are rather narrow. In 2019, curious persons could apply for one-off benefits of PLN 1250 under the “Help2019” programme, aimed primarily at “victims of Nazi repression, residing in Poland, which received financial support from the Foundation under erstwhile programmes. These were primarily: prisoners of concentration camps, ghettos and prisoners, workers deported to forced labour and their children, and young people forced to work at the place of residence." specified assistance may have been sought first by chronically sick persons who receive the lowest pension benefits or who are in a hard situation.
After 2020, we see mainly activities related to the restoration of Polish war graves in Germany or plaques commemorating Poles, but besides exhibitions, lectures or various educational projects. With what effect? With the fact that we cannot invitation not only the reparations, but even the sound announced for at least a fewer years by the Berlin monument.
- says Barbara Warrowska-Gautier.
Message of the erstwhile Auschwitz prisoner
- I'm sorry. German teachers who come with groups of youth to Auschwitz come with a program that is imposed by the German side. Even if Polish guides want to improve, they have no chance to do so. Therefore, I think it would be good for groups to come to the Auschwitz Museum, that, without any exceptions, the guide should be Polish. The guides in Poland are well trained. If they passed on what they were expected to say, there'd be a lot little misunderstandings.
... A communicative I can't realize so far. Until any point from the beginning of the Auschwitz Museum in 1947, there were celebrations of the First Transport (Poles, 14 June – ed.) to Auschwitz. Thousands of prisoners, loudly and so on. It took a long time. The First Transport prisoners were gone, but they were next. Celebrations very solemn and without politics. Then it was entrusted to specified a committee that did not do so, then it was done by an association of Christian families, which besides brought together prisoners of the First Transport who, as long as they were alive, everything was fine. And then they started to leave, the power in this association began to change, and they started to argue. I don't know precisely what the reason was, but it was decided by the Ministry of Culture, the Museum's superior, that the celebrations would go to the hands of the Museum. I think it happened in late 2015. The first specified celebrations began in the year, if I am correct 2016. But "circumcision" is besides much to say due to the fact that there was nothing. Then, with a group of another prisoners, we decided something had to be done. I knew the First Transport prisoners, they were afraid that erstwhile they left everyone would forget them... We managed to do any things.
We should remember that past should be taken care of. Whatever it is, don't twist it. What the Polish people have been through, let us not be dominated. I am very dissatisfied with what is happening in the European Union. This will to impose on us the German model. Poles can regulation themselves. And I'd like it to be clear about war losses and damages.
... There's so small of us left, take an interest in the prisoners, have individual call them, come by, bring them a cookie, arrange a gathering to make them feel like someone's curious in them, want to perceive to them. due to the fact that they have a lot to say.
- calls Barbara Warrowska-Gautier
Written by Cezary Krishna
Source: tysol.pl
Date: 26.01.2025 19:31
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How many resources did Germany give to Poles for planet War II, camps and forced labor? Tremendous data from the foundation

Image by Fratria
Poland allocates PLN 60 million annually to maintaining museums in erstwhile German concentration camps and German extermination camps. In the years 1992-2006, Germany transferred a full of PLN 732 million to Polish victims of German concentration camps. The calculations on the X platform by writer Andrzej Kozicki are based on MKiDN data and the Polish-German Reconciliation Foundation.
When the Law and Justice gave power in 2023, it expected that - as declared by the leading politicians of the civilian Coalition - the current government would proceed to rise in relations with Germany the issue of the work of our western neighbour for the crimes of planet War II and compensation for Poland. It rapidly became clear, however, that this subject of Coalition 13 December would alternatively be abandoned. In January 2024 German media reported on the advancement of the “Polish-German House” initiative and the construction of a memorial in Berlin, commemorating Polish victims of planet War II.
Poland and Germany
Today we hear that problems are even with the monument itself. And to what degree do Germany meet their obligations to Poland, due to the evil that our peoples did between 1939 and 1945?
Little known fact: Poland spent more (and inactive spends) money on maintaining museums in erstwhile German concentration camps (60 million PLN per year) than Germany donated to the victims of concentration camps Polish citizenship (total of PLN 732 million)
“The Emperor Bolesław Chrobry wrote on platform X, Andrzej Kozicki, a journalist. Reintepretation and reconfiguration of sources’.
When asked about the sources of data, Kozicki pointed out that in the case of funds allocated by the Polish State for the maintenance of museums of erstwhile German camps, it is the Ministry of Culture and National Heritage, and as regards the funds donated by Berlin to Polish victims of German camps, the data came from the Polish-German Reconciliation Foundation.
Actions of the Polish-German Reconciliation Foundation
Let us add that in the second case we are talking about the funds transferred from 1992 to 2006. The Foundation, whose objectives include, among others, "a witness of assistance to victims of Nazi persecution", "gathering and making available documentation of Nazi persecution of Polish citizens" or "initiating efforts to reconcile and communicate between nations, especially between Poles and Germany" offers or offered humanitarian, medical, physical aid in fresh times, directed to Poles who survived German concentration camps, Warsaw Uprisings, and survivors of the Holocaust or forced labour during the war. It is not essential to add that there are less and less people each year among us, and that the groups to which the programmes have been targeted or are targeted are rather narrow. In 2019, curious persons could apply for one-off benefits of PLN 1250 under the “Help2019” programme, aimed primarily at “victims of Nazi repression, residing in Poland, which received financial support from the Foundation under erstwhile programmes. These were primarily: prisoners of concentration camps, ghettos and prisoners, workers deported to forced labour and their children, and young people forced to work at the place of residence." specified assistance may have been sought first by chronically sick persons who receive the lowest pension benefits or who are in a hard situation.
After 2020, we see mainly activities related to the restoration of Polish war graves in Germany or plaques commemorating Poles, but besides exhibitions, lectures or various educational projects. With what effect? With the fact that we cannot invitation not only the reparations, but even the sound announced for at least a fewer years by the Berlin monument.
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President Duda: Poles are guardians of memory
Updated: Monday, January 27, 2025 (11:16)
Poles are guardians of the memory of places specified as the erstwhile Auschwitz camp, so that this memory does not die," emphasized president Andrzej Duda, who paid tribute to the victims at the erstwhile Auschwitz camp on Monday.
“Germany has built this extermination manufacture and this concentration camp, we are present the guardians of memory,” said president Andrzej Duda, stressing that this is, in a sense, a continuation of the mission of the rtm.
"We present – as the heirs of the captain Pilecki in any sense – are in charge of these places. Poland takes care of these places precisely to guarantee that memory does not die, that it does not fade away, that it is always remembered, and that by that memory the planet will never again let specified a dramatic human catastrophe to occur, or, more precisely, the catastrophe of humanity," said the President.
"So present we remember among all those who were murdered during the Holocaust besides and over 3 million citizens of Polish judaic nationality who were killed by the Germans during planet War II," added Andrzej Duda.
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President Andrzej Duda in the course of his speech at the site of the erstwhile Auschwitz I camp recalled the criminal plans of Nazi Germany, who created a network of extermination camps for 1 purpose.
– Camps specified as Auschwitz were built to carry out the demolition of the judaic people. That was Hitler's criminal plan, the Nazi Germans' plan to destruct them. We remember all those who were murdered during the Holocaust, besides over 3 million Polish citizens, judaic nationality, who were killed during planet War II," he said.
Polish Memory Guardian
Poland, on which death camps were built, became the guardian of the memory of these events. The Poles, according to the President, proceed this mission, which "was erstwhile accepted voluntarily during planet War II by Captain Pilecki". A mission to witness what happened in Auschwitz.
– He erstwhile allowed himself to be shut down here to bear witness to make a opposition to escape as surviving proof of what is happening here, to bring this evidence to the Western Allies, to attest to what they are doing in occupied lands with conquered nations Nazi Germans," said Duda, and added that Poles "as heirs of Pilecki's captain we are in charge of these places."
During the celebrations, the president met with the Survivors and prayed in the martyrdom cell of St Maximilian Kolbe in Block 11. In the afternoon, together with her spouse and delegations of states and institutions, she will participate in the main celebrations of the global Holocaust Memorial Day, which will take place at the Auschwitz II-Birkenau camp.
The Auschwitz camp was created by the Germans in mid-1940 in the suburbs of Oświęcim, incorporated by the Nazis into the 3rd Reich. It was the largest of German Nazi concentration camps and extermination centers. Over 1.1 million men, women and children lost their lives here. The camp was liberated on January 27, 1945 by soldiers of the 60th Army and the Ukrainian Front. There were about 7,000 prisoners at the time.
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Dr. M. Szpytma from IPN: We gotta keep trying to show the planet what the fact about Auschwitz is
27 January 2025 18:14/
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We must talk all the time in Poland and effort to show the planet what the fact is about the German concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau, about another concentration camps, about another extermination camps, about where the Holocaust was invented. We must besides talk very powerfully about the fact that in addition to the extermination of the Jews there was besides an extermination of the Polish people, that about 4 million Poles were killed during the war, that Polish intelligence was destroyed – he said on Monday “News of the Day” on Radio Maryja Dr. Mateusz Szpytma, deputy president of the Institute of National Memory.
27 January 2025 is the 80th anniversary of the liberation of the German Nazi concentration and extermination camp Auschwitz-Birkenau. Although the Soviets did not bring freedom to Polish lands, but another business and terror, and the camp itself utilized it as a prison for the next fewer years, this date is an crucial symbol. At the end of planet War II, reports of inhuman crimes committed by the Germans began to spread to the public in the world. These were carefully hidden by the perpetrators.
– Germany has tried to hide its crimes in various ways since 1944. In general, genocidal crimes have attempted to commit in specified a way that cognition of them does not penetrate Western opinion. During the war, Germans even tried to take care of their – uglyly speaking – PR in the West, and as the front approached, they utilized the surviving prisoners to dig up the corpses of those they shot and buried (it had a place, among another things, in the concentration camp in Plaszów and another concentration camps), to put them on grates and burn them. These corpses after respective years of resting in the ground were pulled out and under Action 1005 were burned. The Germans besides blew up the crematoria, which were the scariest places and killed those prisoners they utilized to aid with these most terrible crimes. They were shot," said Dr. Mateusz Szpytma.
However, it was not so that the Allies learned about the crimes only after entering the land occupied by the Germans and owned by the Reich. Earlier, the Polish Underground State informed them about mass crimes, including through reports by Jan Karski and by Witold Pilecki.
– Unfortunately, the priorities of the Allied countries were different, and the suggestions that flowed from the Polish side to bomb the tracks to Auschwitz were not understood. Yet hundreds of thousands of Jews were deported from Hungary in July 1944 to gas them all in the Auschwitz-Birkenau extermination camp. We see that at the time, unfortunately, the Poles were underestimated, and in fact, this camp could function without problem until the end, that is, until January 1945 – the historian pointed out.
According to the latest estimates, about 1.1 billion Jews and 100,000 Poles were murdered in the German Auschwitz-Birkenau camp. Many another nations died there, including a large group of russian POWs (mainly Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians).
– This death mill was huge, although it can besides be compared to the death camp in Treblinka. About 900 000 people died there, so we see that there were respective specified terrible places of destruction. Germans created them on occupied Polish lands. The majority of Jews lived here before the war (more lived only in the United States), so the extermination of Jews was the easiest place to carry out it," the deputy president of the IPN pointed out.
The decision of the Germans, who in their genocidal actions were highly pragmatic, was dictated solely by logistical considerations. Thus, false claims are that they built extermination camps where there was the top anti-Semitism. It is simply a cursed and anti-Polish communicative – as well as the hurtful word "Polish extermination camps".
– We must talk all the time in Poland and effort to show the planet what the fact is about the German concentration camp Auschwitz-Birkenau, about another concentration camps, about another extermination camps, about where the Holocaust was invented. We must besides talk very powerfully about the fact that in addition to the extermination of the Jews there was besides an extermination of the Polish people, that about 4 million Poles died during the war, that Polish intelligence was destroyed – emphasized the guest “News of the Day”.
Therefore, historical policy is very important. Unfortunately, the current government is hindering its appropriate conduct by hitting institutions that cultivate national memory and convey the fact about our history. Among them are the Museum of the Second planet War in Gdańsk, from which the exhibition removed the figures of St. Maximilian Maria Kolbe, Blessed Ulmów household and rtm. Witold Pilecki and [The Museum of “Memorial and Identity” of St. John Paul II in Toruń, which the current power intends to destroy].
The full conversation with Dr. Matthew Szpytma is available [here].
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