Magdalena Ziętek-Wielkomska: Polish public opinion is fed already by the most primitive content, which comes down to any atavistic hatred in relation to everything that could be associated with Russia Putin.
In this way, the attitude of Poles towards Dugin is shaped, which has been created by the mainstream press for many years as the patron of all conservative movements in the Western world. And many of Dugin's beliefs coincide with what the mainstream says, fighting Catholicism or Polish national tradition in Poland. Dugin presented his actual views in an interview which he gave to Grzegorz Górny in 1998 (https://www.fronda.pl/a/dugin-co-z-polska-my-Russians-and-Germans-understanding-in-categories-expansion-and-never-to-sie-unchange,158907.html). It is simply a neo-Pogan, who adheres to the ideas of the spiritual primary tradition, who in addition naively believes in the anticipation of a permanent German-Russian alliance. Dugin says: “I am more closely drawn to Slavic-Eurasian sources of Polishness, their cultural and even pagan elements. I'm attracted to any east or Oriental elements, a number culture. I think that what is best in Polish past is judaic tradition in tiny towns of east Poland. In fact, I am curious in everything that was anti-Catholic in Poland: Polish masonry and occultists, Jan Potocki and Hoene-Wroński, Mienżyński and Dzierżyński... They all chose the Eurasian way.” And specifically: "Poland must choose: either Slavic or Catholic identity". He continued: “It is essential to break down Catholicism from the inside, to strengthen Polish masonry, to advance secular decay, to advance heterodoxic and anti-paper Christianity. Catholicism cannot be absorbed by our tradition unless it is profoundly reoriented towards nationalist and anti-Pope. If there was a lodge in Poland like the Irish Golden Dawn, whose leaders, specified as William Butler Yeats or Maud Gonne, were Catholics on the 1 hand, and, on the another hand, fanatic occultists inspired by Celtic culture, 1 can hope.” And a passage: “Both they (i.e. the fresh planet Order) and we (Eurasians) want to deprive you of your Catholicism. However, our offer is better due to the fact that with us you will at least be able to make and realize your Slavic identity.” Finally: “If your national flow had been torn distant from liberalism and turned to paganism, it would have become bound to the East. There was an anti-Catholic and pagan phenomenon “The Other” before the war.
Adam Wielomski: erstwhile reading various statements by Dugin about Poland, 1 can see that, politically speaking, they are inconsistent. Dugin is simply a Polecophile or Polecophobe depending on the Russian interests and relations between Warsaw and Moscow. I think that there is no clear position for Poles as a nation. However, there are 2 points of contention between him and the Endeck tradition. First of all, this is the attitude toward Catholicism. Dugin would most gladly baptize us at Orthodoxy, and since it is impossible to deduce or convert to paganism, both of which are in fact simply anti-Romanism. The second component of the utmost opposition between the endemic tradition and it is the attitude towards the national state. He is simply a Russian imperialist. He doesn't think, he can't think, and he doesn't even effort to think in the category of a national state. He thinks categories of multiethnic empires – and that is Russia – in addition to the sacral, and if not the sacral virtually it is full of pathos. In Dugin's writings, we may be attracted to criticism of Anglo-Saxon liberalism and to certain ideas or arguments, but we must be aware that erstwhile it comes to the affirmative programme, we have nothing in common with it. I cannot imagine Poland as part of an Orthodox empire. We were part of it in the 19th century, and we could never accept it. The Civilization Difference.
Think Poland, No. 47-48 (20-27.11.2022)
Konrad Hand's polemic in the next issue
