In mid-October, Hungary visited erstwhile president of the national Constitution Protection Office (2012–2018) Hans-Georg Maaßen. We talked to him about the impressions gained in Hungary and the future of the CDU.
What was your impression during the talks in Hungary?
– I always like to be in Hungary. I like this country, its past and its mundane, realistic and conventional way of surviving Hungarians. Today, all the more than years ago, due to the fact that I feel that, unlike the citizens of most another EU countries, Hungarians argue left-wing ideology and fanaticism. Hungarians are more unchangeable and calm than the remainder of Europeans – it was rather clear to me. For me, going to Hungary is simply a journey to normality, where I am not forced to believe that there are more than 2 sexes, and where I, as a white German, am not discriminated and defamed.
So you realize why more and more Germans are emigrating to Hungary?
Of course. Last year, about 150,000 Germans emigrated due to the fact that they see political and economical conditions in Germany as repressive and do not want to impose them and their children. They are mostly highly skilled or wealthy people or political dissidents. I estimation that respective million Germans are presently considering emigrating or temporarily leaving the country. In the ellipse of my friends and friends, many are looking for a place to live in a politically safe country, due to the fact that the economical situation and the human rights situation in Germany may proceed to deteriorate. A country where individual is being punished or suffering repression if he declares that there are only 2 sexes, not 3 or twenty, a country where German children cannot go to kindergarten with a sausage sandwich, due to the fact that Muslim or vegan children may feel offended if another kid eats a sausage, specified a country has distanced itself far from the liberal spirit of the Bosnian primary law.
Many Germans refuse to accept this madness. The main problems among those who want to leave are: where I can live safely and usually and how to prevent taxation exit capital. Hungary is an interesting country for many Germans who want to emigrate due to the unchangeable policy of the Hungarian government, geographical and cultural proximity to Germany and a advanced standard of living. I think Hungary benefits from these people bringing their qualifications and money. On the another hand, Germany is primarily home to low-skilled asylum seekers from Muslim countries whose cultural and social alignment is added more than questioned.
The situation described by you in Germany is rather different from the 1 we experienced in 1990 behind Helmut Kohl. Germany was then a large function model for most Hungarians. Do you have the impression that Hungarians present have a realistic image of the situation in Germany?
- Yes and no. erstwhile I saw Prime Minister Orbán at a press conference in Berlin in October and read his interview for “Budapester Zeitung”, I felt that he saw what was happening in Germany. I besides have the impression that any German experts are in government. On the another hand, along with another Hungarian interlocutors, I had the impression that although they saw errors and undesirable changes in German politics, they had not yet understood the dangers of the green wave ideology, which is an attack on the bourgeois society, liberal freedom and democracy, and which will yet push Germany and the EU into the abyss.
How can German-Hungarian relations be improved under the current circumstances?
– As long as Germany and the European Commission claim the right to force another EU countries to live in the ideology of green ideology, I do not see a chance to improve. But German institutions are neither German nor German people. It's large how many people are involved, for example, in the German-Hungarian Society (DUG) and how close and good economical and cultural cooperation is. Hungary should besides remember that there are a large number of Germans who admire the clearly conservative and realistic policy of Prime Minister Orbán and would like Hungary to play a stronger function in Europe in combating the ideology of green madness. any even consider Hungary a political lantern, in a sea of political madness and denial of reality. If I can manage, Hungary should surely be more assured in the EU. I see that Prime Minister Orbán and the Hungarian Government are defamed, discredited and marginalised at EU level in a akin way to political dissidents who are openly telling the truth. This political conflict of enemies is conducted and has nothing to do with the basic thought of liberal democracy and free Europe, but it is simply a method of the political left to silence unpleasant people or political positions. In my opinion, the Hungarian Government is inactive besides defensive at the moment.
With the classic, conservative CDU Kohl and Stoiber of the CSU friction between the Union and Fidesz would most likely not exist. How do CDU and CSU politicians deal with the problem of fighting Fidesz, practically opposing their own political past?
– Prime Minister Orbán rightly stated that the CDU is now a left-wing party. The same can be said of CSU. Mrs Merkel, who was never a Conservative, succeeded in transforming the erstwhile conservative CDU into a left-wing party, casting key positions in the CDU of political left-wing or opportunists, and then programically bringing the CDU closer to the Greens. Many members have so left the party. For current CDU leaders, Fidesz is not a related organization due to the fact that it is not their individual past that has always been left-wing.
CDU management full submitted to the wishes of left-wing green mainstream media. But what about the CDU base?
– Although many members have left the CDU in fresh years due to the fact that they disagree with the left-wing CDU policy, many CDU members inactive think mostly of realpolitik, liberal and conservative categories. Merz's election as organization president was based on the hope of these members that he would lead to a change of policy. Unfortunately, he has so far failed that hope.
So why can conservative elements inactive present at local level endure this? In another words, left-wing green leadership that no longer reflects the diversity at the base.
– There is and was opposition to turning the CDU into a socialist party. For example, members of the CDU and CSU have joined forces to form the WerteUnion, conservative groups formed in many regional associations, and conservative officers meet in the Berlin Kole. However, it is almost impossible for these groups to influence their policies, as in the party's leadership, they conduct a ruthless policy of defamation and exclusion of conservatives. As a associate of the VerteUnion, you have virtually no chance of getting a political mandate. These people are treated like right-wing extremists, and sometimes openly defamed. Officers known to be members of the Berlin ellipse or the VerteUnion must number on their political careers to be over soon. All of this is supported by leading media, in which conservative CDU politicians are publically put under the belt as right-wing extremists, bitter or right-wing populists. These are not stories from the totalitarian communist state, but from the CDU Helmut Kohl and Konrad Adenauer.
For: ‘Budapester Zaitung’
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